| Robert, Lets say that there is no such thing as time.  All events happen at 
once as individual nodes.  But our limited brains can only receive then in 
a linear events.  If this is true then my conscience would have to be a 
great super powerful computer to put these events into a linear pattern of cause 
and effect. That is: the striking of a match is the cause of the effect of fire 
(not the other way around).  Or maybe there is a mechanism that dose this 
for my conscience, like time?  But that can't be right, because time dose 
not exist.  So my conscience has to be a great super powerful 
computer.   Also my conscience would have to make sure it stays on the right 
branch.  What's to keep it from jumping around the tree and seeing fish 
turn into refrigerators?  Is the answer 'space'?  Na, what's 
space?  Nothing.  It can't exist. If our minds are limited to only see events linear, what is the force or 
mechanism that's limiting them?  Or if the limitation is do to the lack of 
something.  What force or mechanism is our minds lacking?  ----------------------------- You say 'time' doesn't exist, and then you say our conscience perceive 
things in a linear way.  Linear perception is time.  Your say time 
doesn't exist, but then you say our conscience exist in time.   You say 'events'.  Photons, gravity, electron, etc.. exist.  An 
event.  What's an event.  Events don't exist because an event is 
time.  Everything happens at once so there is no such thing as 
events.  Our minds can't perceive linear events (past, present, and 
future), they don't exist.  There for we don't exist.   --------------------------- You need to answer these questions.  Don't just say "You have to ask a 
priest or something".  This is why.  You formed the believe that 
'time' dose not exist.  You had to base it on something or did you flip a 
coin?  Base on the questions I asked above, there's a big part of the 
puzzle missing.  Your holding back.  Cuff it up.  What are you 
hiding up you sleeve.  Maybe you think I will not understand.  This 
why I sent some may reply.  Trying to get you to reveal your 
secretes.  I decided it's time for a  Klingon approach and come 
right out and ask you.  ----------------------- Don't worry about not having enough time to figure this out.  You 
already did.  It's just that your limited conscience did not perceive it 
yet. ----------------------------- Temporaphobia (I made that one up) Pat ---------------------------------- |